ram at 500 meters

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canuck4570 posted this 28 March 2016

at what speed should my 311-299 go to topple the rams at 500 meters and is it allowed to use deferent powder charge for the closer metal silhoutte thank you Canuck

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Ed Harris posted this 28 March 2016

If you can maintain accuracy at over 1850 fps that will be adequate with #311299 or #314299 to topple the ram with impulse to spare.

No problems using a lighter load for the shorter range targets.

In the .30-'06 I use 30 grains of RL7 or 26 grains of 4198 up to 300 yards, and 40 grains of 4064, RL15 or Varget out farther.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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canuck4570 posted this 28 March 2016

thank you I have a 308 and a chronograph will back down and go up to 1850  preparing myself to go at ridgeway this summer

 

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Ed Harris posted this 28 March 2016

My 30 grains of RL7 would be about 1900-2000 fps in a .308 Win. Good full charge load. Or about 33-36 grs. of 4895, 4064, RL15 or Varget.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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canuck4570 posted this 28 March 2016

thank you Mr.Harris taken note   

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4060may posted this 29 March 2016

I will be there for the cast bullet match at Ridgway..is this the one you are referring to or a High Power match

John Kort's match is usually the second weekend in June

I have shot the match since 1990..missing only one

I shoot production class with a No.3 Ruger in 30-40Krag

my Ram load is 314299,Water dropped, 18bhn, sized .311, Hornady GC, 32grs Varget, WLR primer, vel is 1950+ a little brutal to shoot, in a under 9# gun

the case capacity of the Krag is close to the 308W

hope to see you there

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4060may posted this 29 March 2016

canuck If you never shot at 500M, make sure there is enough elevation in your scope or mounts

I use the RCBS 180SP for Chickens, pigs and Turkeys

21-22 gr Reloader 7 is more than enough, accuracy is more important than speed...my friend was knocking over Turkeys with a 32-20,Reloader 7, and 311359, Savage 23...bench not OH

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canuck4570 posted this 29 March 2016

yes my scope has 147 moa total so it has about 73 moa elevation its only 2.5x     mmmmm enough? on JBM ballistic  its shows that with 1800 fps I am OK for the ram I could use the bottom  post which covers 39 inches to the middle  X at 100 yards and make the small adjustment with the turret will be searching for a place here in Quebec Canada to shoot to 500 meters 500 meters range are almost non existent here”¦.. so decide to go and shoot with you guys at ridgeway once a year since it is a days drive from where I live   any other tips would be appreciated canuck

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Wineman posted this 29 March 2016

I have tried on several occasions to take those pesky rams down at 550 yards. Its not easy, your 311299 load at 1,800 fps can do it but wind, barrel harmonics, distance, sighting (MOA adjustment) and leading all enter into the equation. I have also seen lead smears as the bullet impacts after its lob as a glance rather than a “hit". There are about six cast shooters at our local match and all of them say: “find a load that can get you 30 of the other critters and what you get in sheep is gravy". I have also found that Gary's advice is a help and run a bore snake after every stage, just to keep everything tidy. If you get a scope with too much power, you lose the MOA you need at 550 unless you have a wedge. A 4x has enough, I'm not sure about a 6x.

Dave

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Wineman posted this 29 March 2016

I have also found that with 40+ grains of med burn rate powder and a 200 grain bullet, I have the worst of both worlds: the same recoil and much more work as the ballistics are challenging.

Dave

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canuck4570 posted this 29 March 2016

4060may wrote: I will be there for the cast bullet match at Ridgway..is this the one you are referring to or a High Power match

John Kort's match is usually the second weekend in June

I have shot the match since 1990..missing only one

I shoot production class with a No.3 Ruger in 30-40Krag

my Ram load is 314299,Water dropped, 18bhn, sized .311, Hornady GC, 32grs Varget, WLR primer, vel is 1950+ a little brutal to shoot, in a under 9# gun

the case capacity of the Krag is close to the 308W

hope to see you there same here, will tell which competition I will goyou are scaring me my rifle is a Sako carbonate and with scope its dead on 6 pounds

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4060may posted this 29 March 2016

canuck come and have fun, first match is always a learning experience bring loading equipment, bullets powder etc....load at the range, plenty of room, in fact there is a press and sclee in the range clubhouse Friday is just a 20 shot warm up match, plenty of time to work up loads like Wineman said, a good load for the first 30, is the better thing to do, rams are always difficult, even on a good day at Ridgway I have never seen it not be windy, trees on both side and circling winds at each bank I usually get there about 12:00 on Friday, if you get there earlier there is usually someone there, feel free to ask questions.... Chuck

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canuck4570 posted this 29 March 2016

applied for my permit to cross the borderhope to get it soon will look up the schedule of the club for match

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muley posted this 29 March 2016

4060 who is the contact person at Ridgeway for the cast shoot? thanks, Jim

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4060may posted this 29 March 2016

John Kort I'll post the flier as soon as he sends it

do you belong to Ridgway? dues are easy but there is usually a match every weekend.....

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