30 wcf loads

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loophole posted this 08 January 2019

anyone like to share your favorite 30-30 loads?  I would like a 165-170 gas check load.

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RicinYakima posted this 08 January 2019

My all time favorite load for the Savage 99, only 30/30 I own, is 14 grains of A2400, WLR primer and Hensley and Gibbs copy of the Ideal 31141. Always does well in lever gun matches for me. For a game load I use the Lyman 311334, 200 grain pointed cast from 1/2 WW's and 1/2 lead over 32 grains of H4831. That may not be a safe load in a Win 94. Works well in the Savage though.

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shastaboat posted this 08 January 2019

I use 20 gr of 2400 in my Marlin 336 which is 1.5 gr over the max load posted in most manuals.  This load chronoes at 2000 fps with 31141 and similar bullets.

Because I said so!

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Chargar posted this 09 January 2019

17/4759

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onondaga posted this 09 January 2019

165 gr wide flat nose gas checked RanchDog bullet cast in #2 alloy

28.1 gr AA2230

2050 fps

30-30 Win.

excellent Deer load.

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Ed Harris posted this 09 January 2019

 

Current copy of The Fouling Shot has good info on .30-30 loads.  Stay tuned.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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melchior posted this 09 January 2019

Wow Ed! I'm impressed with the PCMR memorabilia.   To the best of my knowledge that was the only "official" military use of the Winchester 1894.

73 from KJ7CKJ on the Olympic Peninsula of Washington state.

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Scearcy posted this 09 January 2019

Ric

Do you have a muzzle velocity on that 4831 load? I have a Remington 788 so stout loads, within reason, aren't a problem - particularly as a deer only load.

Jim

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Ed Harris posted this 09 January 2019

Wow Ed! I'm impressed with the PCMR memorabilia.   To the best of my knowledge that was the only "official" military use of the Winchester 1894.

73 from KJ7CKJ on the Olympic Peninsula of Washington state.

 

When you get your next Fouling Shot, other military uses are covered.  Thanks to Russ Arnold for the PCMR info and other tidbits he sent. The FS article is mostly historical but contains practical shooting and zeroing info from WW2 vets who trained defense plant and railroad security to use them.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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loophole posted this 09 January 2019

thanks for your help, boys.  When can we expect the next fowling shot?

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gnoahhh posted this 09 January 2019

190 grain (1980-vintage custom Saeco), 28gr. 3031= 2030fps. .3095 diameter, wide meplat, 12bhn, Hornady gas check, 50/50 lube, OAL 2.550". My standard hunting load for many years, also applied to .303 Savage in M1899's.

Velocity taken with Magnetospeed, Winchester M54 24" barrel, last checked 12/30/18, identical velocity as registered via Oehler eight years ago..

 

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RicinYakima posted this 10 January 2019

Jim, I never chronyed the load, but guessing about 1750 f/s.

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Rich/WIS posted this 10 January 2019

Gee Ed, you look sharp  in uniform.

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gnoahhh posted this 10 January 2019

Gee Ed, you look sharp  in uniform.

 

Which pic?smile

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Ed Harris posted this 10 January 2019

Gee Ed, you look sharp  in uniform.

 

Which pic?smile

 

He's messing with us.  Referring to picture of the Signal Corps soldier with Spruce Gun.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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ALYMAN#1 posted this 11 January 2019

Would appreciate anyone who might know where I found a load for 311041 GC and 311291GC using up to 32 - 33 grs of IMR 4350 which chrono'ed in the mid 1800 fps range in a 336 and 64 Win new model from 70's.  I found these loads and had good results in an 1899 Savage recently but can't find where they came from.  Maybe something from Frank Marshall's writings?

Thanks, so I won't go crazy.

Al

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jimkim posted this 13 January 2019

I have four favorites. I don't shoot paper anymore, now that I can't focus good enough to get a clear sight picture. 1) 30gr IMR-4350 under any gas checked 165-200 gr cast bullet. Good deer round.

2) 30gr IMR-4064 under any gas checked 150-200 gr cast bullet. Another great deer round.

3) 6.0 gr Red Dot under a 113-152 gr plain based cast bullet. This is a great squirrel, rabbit, and varmint round. You can substitute 6.5gr Green Dot, or 7.0-8.0gr Unique, if you don't have RD.

4) 10 gr Unique under any 100-170 gr bullet regardless of construction, if cast will need GC. This a general purpose round, that is just plain accurate. Will also put a deer down.

5) 13 gr Blue Dot under any 113 -170 gr GC'ed cast bullet. Also works well with 125 -170 gr jacketed bullets. I love it under the 125 gr Sierra HP. This is a 2004 Alliant silhouette recipe for a 150 gr cast bullet. It really shines in my old 336.

I hope you can use these.

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jimkim posted this 13 January 2019

Would appreciate anyone who might know where I found a load for 311041 GC and 311291GC using up to 32 - 33 grs of IMR 4350 which chrono'ed in the mid 1800 fps range in a 336 and 64 Win new model from 70's.  I found these loads and had good results in an 1899 Savage recently but can't find where they came from.  Maybe something from Frank Marshall's writings?

Thanks, so I won't go crazy.

Al

I use 170 gr jacketed loads for 31141, RD311165RF, 311291, and SAECO #315(TC?) those charges sound like the ones from 170gr Speer loads. I will check Load Data, and if I get a match I'll edit this post, or at least try.

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shootcast posted this 13 January 2019

Have several dirty thirties. 165 RCBS SIL for silly wet in a super 14. IMR 4198 20.5 gr. Will take the 200 yd. Ram. Shoots good in rifles also. Lighter loads for general plinking use 2400, unique or Herco. All good, use what’s on hand. Favorite Deer load, RCBS 180 FN, ( 190 my alloy) IMR 3031 @ 27.5 gr.= 1900 FPS. Just depends on the intended use. Not all that picky for general shooting.

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loophole posted this 13 January 2019

once again I thank all of you for the info.  The Fouling Shot art on the 30wcf was great--thanks Ed.

Steve K 

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Notlwonk posted this 14 January 2019

Would appreciate anyone who might know where I found a load for 311041 GC and 311291GC using up to 32 - 33 grs of IMR 4350 which chrono'ed in the mid 1800 fps range in a 336 and 64 Win new model from 70's.  I found these loads and had good results in an 1899 Savage recently but can't find where they came from.  Maybe something from Frank Marshall's writings?

Thanks, so I won't go crazy.

Al

There is a listing in Sierra's manual for their 170 J's,  34.3grs IMR4350 giving 2000 fps. I didn't write down how much for 1800 or 1900 fps, somewhere around 32 or 33.

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