RUGER #1 375 H&H

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linoww posted this 12 January 2009

I just purchased a Ruger #1 375 with a 4X Weaver.Using Ed Harris's advice of 12.0 of Bullseye with the Lyman 375248 it shot 2” average for five  5 shot groups at 100 and this was in  quite a bit of wind.I doubt it was sonic and  was a very pleasant blooper load.Many groups had 4 of the 5 into 1.5” or less.I also shot the RCBS 270FN GC with 30 of 5744 and it shot into 1.5-1.75” @ 100 for three 5 shot groups and seemed pretty darn hot.

Any other advice on 375 loads??

George

"if it was easy we'd let women do it" don't tell my wife I said that!

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GBertolet posted this 12 January 2009

I too like shooting the 375 H&H. I have a 700 Rem safari grade with a Leupold 4X. I like using the Lyman 375449 with gas check and 26.0 gr 4759 and a tuft of dacron filler for 1630 fps as my regular load. I get groups of about 1.5 inches at 100yds. My power load is 35.0 gr 4759 with the same bullet, for an even 2000 fps. It groups about 2 inches at 100yds. I love off hand shooting at 8 inch steel gongs at 100 yds with this rifle. You can really hear the lead slapping steel with this rifle even with ear plugs.

It sounds like you are doing fine with your Ruger. Good luck and good shooting!

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linoww posted this 12 January 2009

My power load is 35.0 gr 4759 with the 375449 , for an even 2000 fps.

I'll give it a try.Thanks for the load.Did you have accuracy trouble without the filler with the 4759?? I also have a SAECO 290g tapered “Pope Style" plain-base special order run i am going to shoot with the Bullseye load.I am going to coat them with liquid Carnauba wax  unsized and see how that goes.The wax worked good in my 22's at 2000 fps

 

George

"if it was easy we'd let women do it" don't tell my wife I said that!

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GBertolet posted this 12 January 2009

I had a slight hangfire just about every shot, unless I tilted up the barrel before firing, WITHOUT the filler on 26gr load. WITH the filler everything is ok. No filler needed on the 35gr load. The filler I use is dacron and I use a very minimal amount, a small tuft, just enough to bridge the case diameter to hold the powder over the primer. With normal handling it is enough to keep the powder in place. I use it as more of a retainer than a filler. This small amount is consumed on firing, I have yet to find any residue.The 375 is a big case,with only about a third of it full of powder, I choose to use one. Some people don't like fillers and choose not to use them, and use a load that fills the case more.

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giorgio de galleani posted this 12 January 2009

I owned a ruger N°#1 in 375 H&H that shot very well and always regret its sale.

In my CZ I use slow European shotgun powders,not magnum 12 powders,those for 1-1/4 shot loads .

Best accuracy is,for me at 1400 fps with the RCBS gas chech mould.

My favourite is a new  LBT custom 4 cavity 300 grains gas check,with shotgun powders or Vihtavuori n110.

DO NOT USE FILLERS.Ed Harris says they can be unpredictably dangerous.

So heed  this prudent advice.

I have no problems with large rifle magnum primers,of any make.

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linoww posted this 12 January 2009

Hangfires in a 375 sound scary.

 

George Damron

"if it was easy we'd let women do it" don't tell my wife I said that!

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Grant posted this 27 January 2009

Hi,George

For what it is worth, my favorite load at the range in my .375 H&H Remington 700 uses the RCBS bullet (265 gr. with wheelweights and Hornady gas check), 24 gr. SR4759, and WLR primers in W-W cases. Velocity is between 1500 and 1600 by interpolation, and accuracy just keeps getting better. The throat has been tapered a bit so it might be more like the Ruger.

I measure SR4759 instead of weighing it, so sometimes get a light load. When the SR4759 is gone I will try 2400 because of your report of using it in the .22-250 (and having a lot on hand), trying 20 gr. to start. I have used SR4759 in hunting loads at 2,000 fps, but I will use H4895 after the present hunting rounds have been used up. In FS 94-19 (1991) Jim Wilcox of Vale, OR, reported very good results with 45 gr. IMR 3031 in his Winchester Model 70 using the Lyman 375449 cast 1:10. You can interpolate from there.

I use a Lee collet die set with the sizing mandrel turned down to size the case neck more. That holds the bullet well. From time to time I have to resize full length so the cases will chamber.

The .375 H&H is a very nice cast bullet case. And it is fun to see the expressions of the varmint gun guys when they see the cigar-size cartridges. And after all, a hunter with a good .375 H&H really needs no other rifle.

Grant

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linoww posted this 27 January 2009

I may try 2400 a bit later in the 375, i just need to finish the B.E.and 5744 loads before i switch gears.I shot the RCBS 37-250 again with 30.0 of 5744.I didnt get the grouping as good as before,then i realized i was resting the gun almost at the end of the forearm.Once i slid it back so the middle of the bag centered on the front scope ring the vertically strung 3” groups shrunk to rounder 2"(ish) groups.I also shot a 290g tapered Schuetzen bullet with 12.5 of B.E.Bullets were just tumble lubed in liquid carnauba wax a forum member gave me to try.Group # one was 1.2” and the next 5 shot group had 4 into 1.5"and a nasty shot 2” above group to kake it about 3"! Worth a re test anyhow.

The wax is put on very thin and dries fast.I used some in the 22-250 @2000 and it worked as well as NRA formula. And you are right about the 375 being the one gun solution.It just put my 35 W. to #2 status.

George Damron

"if it was easy we'd let women do it" don't tell my wife I said that!

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KenK posted this 28 January 2009

I put a one inch wide strip of bicycle innertube between the forearm and barrel, at the very end of the the forearm, on my No. 1.  It seems to help with the shot stringing a little bit.

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linoww posted this 28 January 2009

I put a one inch wide strip of bicycle innertube between the forearm and barrel, at the very end of the the forearm, on my No. 1.  It seems to help with the shot stringing a little bit.

That sounds like an easy one.I'll give it a try.

Thanks for the tip.

 

George

"if it was easy we'd let women do it" don't tell my wife I said that!

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redball2 posted this 28 January 2009

45 grains of 3031 and the lyman 375449 cast of 1 to 10 tin and lead has killed a lot of game for me. sighet it to hit point of aim at 175 yds and shoot enough to know he tragectory and it works like you want it. I did play with a paper patch mould I made. its easy to get some thing going over 23 or 24 hundred ft/sec but paper patching is a lot of work. nei makes paper patch moulds for this and others.12 grains of unique has given me clover leaf groups for me at 100 yds. I doubt it would be going over 1050 f/s

Jim wilcox

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linoww posted this 28 January 2009

redball2 wrote: 45 grains of 3031 and the lyman 375449 cast of 1 to 10 tin and lead has killed a lot of game for me. sighet it to hit point of aim at 175 yds and shoot enough to know he tragectory and it works like you want it. I did play with a paper patch mould I made. its easy to get some thing going over 23 or 24 hundred ft/sec but paper patching is a lot of work. nei makes paper patch moulds for this and others.12 grains of unique has given me clover leaf groups for me at 100 yds. I doubt it would be going over 1050 f/s

Jim wilcox  

I shoot 12 of Unique in the 30-06 ,7.65 Argentine and 45-70.I guess I'll try it in the 375.I should just epoxy my powder measure at 12 of Unique.Thanks for the loads.I hope to use it on  whitetail doe hunt in Spokane in a month or so.

 

George

"if it was easy we'd let women do it" don't tell my wife I said that!

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galenaholic posted this 01 February 2009

Well, I'm coming in a bit late on this but my pet load for my Ruger #1 in .375 H&H is 49.0 gr. of either H or IMR-4895, Winchester brass andWLR primer. I use a one grain tuft of Dacron to hold the powder next to the primer. I estimate the velocity to be about 1900 to maybe 2000 FPS. Accuracy is good at 1.25". Brass is neck sized for four loadings, then the necks annealed and the brass full length sized. Brass seems to want to last forever.

Paul B.

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linoww posted this 01 February 2009

galenaholic wrote: Well, I'm coming in a bit late on this but my pet load for my Ruger #1 in .375 H&H is 49.0 gr. of either H or IMR-4895, Winchester brass andWLR primer. I use a one grain tuft of Dacron to hold the powder next to the primer. I estimate the velocity to be about 1900 to maybe 2000 FPS. Accuracy is good at 1.25". Brass is neck sized for four loadings, then the necks annealed and the brass full length sized. Brass seems to want to last forever.

Paul B.

What bullet do you use?

George

"if it was easy we'd let women do it" don't tell my wife I said that!

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galenaholic posted this 13 March 2009

linoww wrote: galenaholic wrote: Well, I'm coming in a bit late on this but my pet load for my Ruger #1 in .375 H&H is 49.0 gr. of either H or IMR-4895, Winchester brass andWLR primer. I use a one grain tuft of Dacron to hold the powder next to the primer. I estimate the velocity to be about 1900 to maybe 2000 FPS. Accuracy is good at 1.25". Brass is neck sized for four loadings, then the necks annealed and the brass full length sized. Brass seems to want to last forever.

Paul B.

What bullet do you use?

George

Well, I'm late again.:shock: The bullet I use is the RCBC #37-250-FN. Bullet cast at 270 gr. in weight.

Paul B.

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linoww posted this 20 March 2009

i use the same RCBS bullet.Nice shooter.

George

"if it was easy we'd let women do it" don't tell my wife I said that!

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CB posted this 31 March 2009

I had one , Ruger #1 Tropica, 375 H&H, Last year I took it to Wind Hill and shot about 90 rds. Monday I felt so beat up I sold it for $400.00 on Monday. Joe

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jhrosier posted this 01 April 2009

Smokie joe wrote: I had one , Ruger #1 Tropica, 375 H&H, Last year I took it to Wind Hill and shot about 90 rds. Monday I felt so beat up I sold it for $400.00 on Monday. Joe Holy cow! I sure wish that I had been there to pick that one up. ( And I already have one.:))

I load mine up with 30-some-odd grains of 4198 and a 265 gr cast bullet over a pinch of dacron. I'm getting 38-55 balistics and not enough recoil to bother anyone. I have gotten many one ragged hole groups at 50 yards with this combo. I don't hunt big game so this is just a fun target load.

I paid a bunch of money for a single box of factory fodder the day that I picked up the gun because I just couldn't wait for my dies to come in. The factory ammo is a little more than a shade snappy, both to the shoulder and the wallet. I was ready to quit after fifteen rounds but I couldn't find anyone else will to touch off the last five. It was well worth the price of admission though. I had heard for years about how important the bullet construction was for hunting with the big boomers, but had no first hand experience. The bullets from the Remington 270 gr SP load only penetrated four or five inches in dry sand at 25 yards and completely disintigrated! I sure would have hated to botch a hunt with that sort of performance.

I'm more than a little curious to see what sort of results I might get with a cast bullet and a case full of black powder. I bought a couple of boxes of once fired nickled cases to give it a try this summer. Don't know if I will use real black or Triple-7.

Jack

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Ramsgate posted this 12 May 2009

galenaholic wrote: Well, I'm coming in a bit late on this but my pet load for my Ruger #1 in .375 H&H is 49.0 gr. of either H or IMR-4895, Winchester brass andWLR primer.

I use a similar load in my #1, same brass, same bullet 37-250-FN RCBS which weighs 262 grains on my scale and I use CCI large pistol primers but I differ on the powder ... just a bit. Today I'm using 5.4 grains of Bullseye and over the chrono the velocity ranges from 717 fps to 747 fps. It's not a position sensitive load and at indoor distances it shoots one ragged hole groups. I have a Leupold 4X on t right now and as soon as I take it off, the groups will enlarge :X . I'm mindful of Ed Harris's caution about the bullet not exiting the barrel with such a light charge but they honestly seem to get out of there with some authority. Why such a light load? Well, noise is a big factor and a 262 grain bullet at 725 fps or so will do what I need it to do. Anyway, I'm glad to be here. I've read a lot and I'm aware that this is a very informed community. Thank you.

Peter

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KenK posted this 12 May 2009

Ramsgate wrote:  a 262 grain bullet at 725 fps or so will do what I need it to do. Anyway, I'm glad to be here. I've read a lot and I'm aware that this is a very informed community. Thank you.

Peter

Welcome aboard.

That sounds like a very interesting load.  I seem to recollect some of the old writers saying the .375 H&H was the cartridge to have if limited to one.  Mouse to Moose (and beyond).

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Ramsgate posted this 25 June 2009

I've been trying this and that for gallery loads and most times Bullseye has been the clear choice but here is one that may be worth pursuing. Don't say “only 20 yards” ... I was very unsteady and besides, gallery loads are unlikely to be used from mountain top to mountain top. My trusty CED chronograph has chosen to not function but I suspect something in the order of 800 fps. The load does not seem to be position sensitive and leaves very very little residue in the barrel.

http://ramsgate.smugmug.com/photos/5736704632CiVX-M.jpg

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Muddy posted this 26 June 2009

Howdy, What about loads for my 375/06? I use the RCBS 250 and have had one cav. HP'ed by Erik. Too bad I didn't get drawn for moose/sheep/2nd deer this year but....... Last year I shot a doe w/a 223 case cut off and filled w/straight PB (cleaned/pickel'ed the case, left primer in then FL sized in 223 die then formed the ogive w/a 6 BR die. Used 51 gr 4320, not much tracking involved! I know not 100% cast but I did pour PB.-Muddy

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TRKakaCatWhisperer posted this 01 July 2009

Muddy - good to hear of someone using those for hunting. I've played with .380 and .223 cases - but just to say I've done it.

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Ed Harris posted this 01 July 2009

Ramsgate,

This is good minimum bore-exit info to have. I never tried a .375 load that light with Bullseye, but anywhere in the range of 10-13 grs. has always been wonderful, depending on what it takes to stabilize the cast bullet of choice. Were you using current production Alliant product or older Hercules?

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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Ramsgate posted this 01 July 2009

Ed Harris wrote: Were you using current production Alliant product or older Hercules?

Hercules - it appears that 8 lbs of Bullseye is a lifetime supply. The 375 H&H is a delight to reload. I can only assume that people have tried the caliber in its full house mode and have been dismayed. It's an incredibly versatile round and if you run out of driveway markers or tent pegs, it's a useful substitute. Of course you have to take care whilst driving them in the ground.

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Ed Harris posted this 02 July 2009

Ramsgate wrote: Hercules - it appears that 8 lbs of Bullseye is a lifetime supply... I used to think so, but now know better.  Since I started using Bullseye with plainbased bullets in my rifle ammunition too, as well as handgun ammo, the case of four 8-pound caddies I bought four years ago is down to the last caddy!  Of course I have loaded and hoarded a goodly supply of loaded ammo in my favorite calbers, but I have shot alot more with great enjoyment.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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galenaholic posted this 05 July 2009

 they are accurate.jhrosier wrote: Smokie joe wrote: I had one , Ruger #1 Tropica, 375 H&H, Last year I took it to Wind Hill and shot about 90 rds. Monday I felt so beat up I sold it for $400.00 on Monday. Joe Holy cow! I sure wish that I had been there to pick that one up. ( And I already have one.:))

I load mine up with 30-some-odd grains of 4198 and a 265 gr cast bullet over a pinch of dacron. I'm getting 38-55 balistics and not enough recoil to bother anyone. I have gotten many one ragged hole groups at 50 yards with this combo. I don't hunt big game so this is just a fun target load.

I paid a bunch of money for a single box of factory fodder the day that I picked up the gun because I just couldn't wait for my dies to come in. The factory ammo is a little more than a shade snappy, both to the shoulder and the wallet. I was ready to quit after fifteen rounds but I couldn't find anyone else will to touch off the last five. It was well worth the price of admission though. I had heard for years about how important the bullet construction was for hunting with the big boomers, but had no first hand experience. The bullets from the Remington 270 gr SP load only penetrated four or five inches in dry sand at 25 yards and completely disintigrated! I sure would have hated to botch a hunt with that sort of performance.

I'm more than a little curious to see what sort of results I might get with a cast bullet and a case full of black powder. I bought a couple of boxes of once fired nickled cases to give it a try this summer. Don't know if I will use real black or Triple-7.

Jack

Shoot my Ruger #1 in either .404 Jeffery or .416 Rigby with factory ammo and you'll think the .375 Ouch & Ouch is a pussycat. .>A lot cheaper too. The last time I bout ammo for th Rigby is was $125 a box. :shock:

My preference in jacketed bullets for the .375 is a 300 gr. bullet with common cup and core construction. If I were to go with a 270 gr. bullet, I'm thinking one of the premium bullets like the Nosler or Barnes TXS. I've tried a couple of the latter and I'm very impressed with their accuracy. My Mauser custom in .35 Whelen is a half minute gun with the Barnes 225 gr. TSX and a hot load of RL-15. The 100 gr. Barnes is the best groupng bullet in my M70 Featheweight in .257 Bob. They are pricey as all get out but doggonit they are accurate. :dude:

Paul B.

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Daryl S posted this 29 May 2010

23.0gr. SR7625 with the 270gr. GC Lyman bullet was my match load in a BRNO for a while. It ran MOA, prone with a sling and using the rifle's flip-up peep sight. (I was a lot younger in 1974)

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galenaholic posted this 29 May 2010

Daryl S wrote: 23.0gr. SR7625 with the 270gr. GC Lyman bullet was my match load in a BRNO for a while. It ran MOA, prone with a sling and using the rifle's flip-up peep sight. (I was a lot younger in 1974)

Hell! We were all a lot younger in 1974. :D

Paul B.

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raytear posted this 30 May 2010

> We were all a lot younger in 1974. <

1974 !!   I was only about half as old then as I am now!

  :thinking:      To my fellow “Old Dogs" 

One day the old German Shepherd starts chasing rabbits and before long, discovers that he's lost. Wandering about, he notices a leopard heading rapidly in his direction with the intention of having lunch.

The old German Shepherd thinks, 'Oh, oh! I'm in deep doo-doo now!' Noticing some bones on the ground close by, he immediately settles down to chew on the bones with his back to the approaching cat. Just as the leopard is about to leap, the old German Shepherd exclaims loudly, 'Boy, that was one delicious leopard! I wonder, if there are any more around here?'

Hearing this, the young leopard halts his attack in mid-strike, a look of terror comes over him and he slinks away into the trees. 'Whew!' says the leopard, 'That was close! That old German Shepherd nearly had me!'

Meanwhile, a monkey who had been watching the whole scene from a nearby tree, figures he can put this knowledge to good use and trade it for protection from the leopard. So, off he goes, but the old German Shepherd sees him heading after the leopard with great speed, and figures that something must be up.

The monkey soon catches up with the leopard, spills the beans and strikes a deal for himself with the leopard.

The young leopard is furious at being made a fool of and says, 'Here, monkey, hop on my back and see what's going to happen to that conniving canine!

Now, the old German Shepherd sees the leopard coming with the monkey on his back and thinks, 'What am I going to do now?', but instead of running, the dog sits down with his back to his attackers, pretending he hasn't seen them yet, and just when they get close enough to hear, the old German Shepherd says... 'Where's that monkey? I sent him off an hour ago to bring me another leopard!

Moral of this story...

Don't mess with the old dogs... age, skill, and treachery will always overcome youth and exuberance. Cool-headedness and brilliance only come with age and experience.

If you don't send this to five 'old' friends right away, there will be five fewer people laughing in the world.

Of course, I am in no way insinuating that any of you are old, some are just more 'youth challenged'.    :nawnawnaw:

You did notice the size of the print, didn't you?   (The original was in 30 pt type)

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CB posted this 01 June 2010

George,

I am looking in to buying a #1 in 375 Ruger, but an H&H would be nice also.

Jerry

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CB posted this 01 June 2010

Ed,

It is amazing how fast we can go thru what appears to be a life time supply. Of all the powders totaled, I go thru probably 24 pounds a year. I shoot daily, so it does get used up fast.

Jerry

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w-d-s posted this 28 May 2011

Hi, has anyone sluged or measured the throat diameter on there ruger #1 in 375 H-H? anyone tried heavy bullets over 300 gr. in 375? thanks wayne

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6pt-sika posted this 29 May 2011

w-d-s wrote: Hi, has anyone sluged or measured the throat diameter on there ruger #1 in 375 H-H? anyone tried heavy bullets over 300 gr. in 375? thanks wayne I have  Ruger #1H in 375 H&H MAG . Actually had this rifle twice . Anyway it isn't a cast shooter for me I just use the no longer produced Nosler 260 grain Ballistictip !

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w-d-s posted this 30 May 2011

Hi,375s in bolt guns can be good cast bullet shooters. you should try them in the #1. jacket bullets are very high priced now for plinking. wayne

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6pt-sika posted this 30 May 2011

w-d-s wrote: Hi,375s in bolt guns can be good cast bullet shooters. you should try them in the #1. jacket bullets are very high priced now for plinking. wayne

I don't plink (I may however shot a few groups from time to time), so no need for me to worry about the price .

I check sights and hunt with my 375 H&H MAG when I feel the desire .

 

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cptuap posted this 16 November 2011

Recently aquired a Ruger#1 in .375 H&H so I find this discussion interesting. Will be trying some cast loads using bullets from Hunters Supply, and others, at first to get an idea what it likes as to weight. Would like to have a good squib load as well as a hunting load for muledeer. Thanks to all previous posters on this subject. Cp

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LWesthoff posted this 16 November 2011

I don't hunt any more 'cause at 84, the hills are getting pretty steep, so I haven't fired my Rem. 700 .375 H&H for some time. However, I'm looking at a target on the wall of my loading room with a 1.5 inch 5-shot group (100 yds), fired June 8, 1983 with 63 gr. H4350 (no filler wad) behind Lyman 375449 (lino). That's not exactly a squib load, and I never used it hunting, but I'm pretty sure it would work for mule deer, with a bullet made of a little softer alloy.

One thing I'm very sure of - that old .375 firing Nosler partitions makes moose fall down very quickly.

Wes

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6pt-sika posted this 16 November 2011

LWesthoff wrote: I don't hunt any more 'cause at 84, the hills are getting pretty steep.

Get yourself a nice 300 cc class ATV thats 4x4 and you should be able to get around enough to wack a deer . Or rather get your self in the general area so you only need to walk a couple hundred yards ;)

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LWesthoff posted this 16 November 2011

6pt-sika;

Actually, quite often all I'd have to do here to whack a deer is open the back door, and we have a small herd of Roosevelt elk with a dandy bull (who must have seen one of those “Hartford” ads somewhere - he spends a lot of time posing) that seems to like the 40 acre hayfield across the road.

Last few years before I quit, I really enjoyed some horse pack hunts up in the Washington wilderness areas and 'way up in Northern British Columbia. Maybe I got spoiled.

Wes

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TRKakaCatWhisperer posted this 18 November 2011

I have a R#1 Tropical in .375 Ouch and Ouch. Any recommendations on prairie dog CAST bullet loads?

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6pt-sika posted this 18 November 2011

TRK wrote: I have a R#1 Tropical in .375 Ouch and Ouch. Any recommendations on prairie dog CAST bullet loads?

Sure !

Get a Ruger 10-22 and shoot CCI Mini Mags ;)

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PETE posted this 19 November 2011

TRK,

Aside from what 6pt says I've had some success with my .375 H&H Mag. this past Summer.

Possibly my buddy with a Ruger #1 will pipe in but until then I'll give you what my Win. Mod. 70 does.

I use the 250 gr. SAECO #738 PB bullet cast 1-25 Tin/Lead and sized .377. I use Javelina (NRA formula) as my lube and Rem. LR mag. primers. OAL is 3.550. My favorite load is 25 grs. of IMR 4198 which gives a MV of 1353 fps with an SD of 12 fps. Groups run around 1 1/2” at 100 yds.

Another good load I didn't chronograph is 20 grs. of SR4759. All else being the same as above groups run the same as the load above also.

Both loads should have the powder oriented for consistent results.

Neither load is what you'd call a powder puff load, as 6pt suggests you use, but is a long ways from a full house load too. :) They might not be accurate enuf for Prairie Dogs but you should be able to “bark” them. Throwing them up in the air a ways you'll also dig a nice hole for them to fall into and when the dirt comes down you'll effectively bury them. Nice and neat! No fuss! No bother!

Pete

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