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Lone Wolf
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#1 Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 06:24 pm |
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I guess I have to ask. I have a 1858 army revolver replica, and was
thinking of buying the round ball mold from lyman. The molds are
either a 451dia. or 454dia round ball they sell. So I was thinking my lyman
45acp mold casts at 452dia. Bullet weight is 225 grains round nose. Can I
use this mold for my 44 army???
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tturner53
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#2 Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 06:46 pm |
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| From the Gun Digest Black Powder Loading Manual: Texas New Army Revolver, 25 gr. FFF by volume, Lee 456-220-1R 220 gr. roundnose, cast at .456. If it was me I'd just try one and see, using pure lead only. If you're not familiar with loading/shooting cap and ball revolvers it'd be a good idea to get a book, maybe save yourself some trouble and have more fun. Good luck. EDIT; Dale makes a good point, chain fires aren't funny. I should have been more specific about the 'try one' part, meaning only load one chamber. Better yet just follow Dale's advice, use an oversize bullet. I've had great luck with the Lee bullet made for the Ruger Old Army. Last edited on Sat Oct 31st, 2009 05:41 am by tturner53
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#3 Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 02:17 am |
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LoneWolf;
Your Lyman mould will probably cast an undersize bullet when the alloy is plain lead (Lyman bullet mould size is calculated with their #2 alloy which will measure larger that a pure lead bullet).
It is important to use an OVERSIZE bullet when loading C&B revolvers for the bullet to seal the mouth of the chamber to avoid "chain fires". A proper round ball will cut a ring of lead from around the ball when loading and get a good seal in a cylinder that is in good shape.
A tight wad under the ball or bullet helps in this regard:
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/%28S%28yrw35y45mjlxmdu4hsrlzvqi%29%29/categories/partList.aspx?catID=2&subID=37&styleID=1251
FWIW
Dale53Last edited on Sat Oct 31st, 2009 02:22 am by Dale53
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#4 Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 08:33 pm |
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Lone Wolf, different manufacturer's of 1858 Rem. New Model Army replicas specified different round ball diameters for use in their revolvers. Some specified .451", while others recommended .454". As Dale 53 said, regardless of the diameter ball your revolver needs, it must shave a ring of lead when you load it to reduce the odds of chain fires. A lubed .45cal. felt wad between the powder charge (FFFg or Pyrodex P only; no smokeless powder ever!) also helps in this regard. Before you purchase a mold, why not purchase or borrow a few swaged Hornady or Speer .451" and .454" RB's to see which one fits the cylinder better. Once you determine that, you can then decide whether or not the .452" mold will fit your gun or not.
All, If you belong to the NMLRA, there's an excellent article by the Bevel Brothers in their November '09 "Muzzle Blasts" on chain fires.
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